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    fitrum capsule..

    Hi guys,

    may nakapagtry na ng fitrum dietary supplement... yng pinopromote ni juday...

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    ano yan? parang cilium fibre?
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    para sakin...diet pills + juday don't match...

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    As always, the "No Approved Therapeutic Claims" still apply.

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    parang hindi naman effective, kasi bakit naman kasi si juday ang model

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassidy
    As always, the "No Approved Therapeutic Claims" still apply.
    ano po ba ibig sabihin nito...parati ko nakikita... ano ba yung therapeutic? thnx
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    Meron ba talagang effect ito? Or placebo lang?

    Regarding Juday, pumayat naman na siya diba? Though I doubt its mainly because of Fitrum. I reckon its because of daily workout.

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    kapatid ko gumagamit, pumayat cya talaga, kahit ano parin ang kain nya pero binabawasan nya ung kanin na knakain nya

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    Sa akin effective. Lost 6lbs na since I started using it. Plus, na lessen ung chest pains ko.

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    as far as i know.. increase thermogenesis and energy expenditure ung effects nito. So in a way, u'll lose weight, pero mas ok if you excercise din, para mas effective

    i think parehas ito nung inadvertise ng Healthy Options ThermoGreenTea before? and L-carnitine din ung one of the ingredients?

    pero syempre, "No Approved therapeutic claims"

    Quote Originally Posted by engr.aidrian
    ano po ba ibig sabihin nito...parati ko nakikita... ano ba yung therapeutic? thnx
    yup! it is always used sa mga herbal supplements.
    as far as i can understand.. pag sinabing No approved therapeutic claims, hindi pa tested long term ung efficacy nung drug. Disclaimer yan ng drug company pag hindi nameet nung drug ung inadvertise nila na effect.

    therapeutic means effect of the drug to give the beneficial effect like treating a fever or relieving of nasal congestion
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    it helps increase metabolism, thus burns fat faster. but compared to other green tea supplements, mababa lang ang dosage ng fitrum. kung fat-burning ang target, i personally think better yung green tea capsules na binebenta ng Healthy Options. kung for cleansing lang naman, inom nalang ng green tea (not C2 ah, but the chinese tea talaga).
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    why not try cleansing diet? one of my uncle went on cleansing diet. veggie lang kinakain niya... raw cabbage and the likes. minsan blanched lang and no oil at all. he also do exercise like swimming.

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    easy lang sa drastic changes sa diet, it can have adverse effects on your health (e.g. your heart), so it's best to have medical supervision.
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    hmm sino nakapanood ng bubble gang last friday? yan ang commercial nila si michael v si juday and si ogie si ryan

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    for best result, mas maganda pa din sabayan ng proper diet and supervised workout (or kahit jogging everyday).

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    ang pansin ko rin, if u are already exercising, pagdinagdagan mo ng green tea, regardless if it's in tablet form or tea talaga, nadadagdagan yung pagpawis mo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by http://www.chasefreedom.com/lcarnitine.html
    L-Carnitine
    Information and Review



    L-Carnitine is a main ingredient in many diet pills and supplements, including Berry Trim Plus and Herbalife products. The following review is by Bill Sukala. William R. Sukala,MS,CSCS is a clinical exercise physiologist and health/fitness writer, lecturer, and consultant. He owns and operates Pinnacle Medical Exercise in Wellington, New Zealand. For more information, visit www.williamsukala.com

    INTRODUCTION
    Discovered in 1905, L-carnitine is a nitrogen-containing, short-chain carboxylic acid—technically, it is not an amino acid. It is a water-soluble, vitamin-like compound (Kanter & Williams, 1995) that is readily synthesized in the body from lysine and methionine (Cerretelli & Marconi, 1990). Although carnitine is not an essential nutrient because it can be synthesized in the body, it is sometimes considered conditionally essential in that a dietary deficiency may cause adverse side effects in certain circumstances (Broquist, 1994). However, in an industrialized nation, such a deficiency is rare.

    Dietary carnitine can be easily obtained in a number of foods. Perhaps the best source is meat, particularly beef, sheep, and lamb. Other animal foods such as milk, cheese, and poultry contain somewhat less carnitine, while fruits and vegetables have negligible amounts (Kanter & Williams, 1995). In light of this, one must recognize that a diet containing sufficient amounts of essential amino acids will provide the necessary building blocks for our bodies to synthesize sufficient quantities of carnitine.

    L-carnitine functions in a three-part enzyme complex (carnitine acyltransferase I, carnitine translocase, and carnitine acyltransferase II) that is responsible for transport of long-chain fatty acids across the inner mitochondrial membrane to the cristae where ss-oxidative enzymes are active (Pande et. al., 1980).

    However, carnitine supplementation with supraphysiological doses above and beyond that which the body requires, does not result in increased fat oxidation at rest or during exercise in well-nourished individuals; thus, it appears that we can synthesize the necessary amounts from a diet adequate in its precursors (lysine and methionine). Those medically diagnosed as carnitine-deficient may benefit from a supplement, but this condition is uncommon.


    STUDIES ON L-CARNITINE
    We have established thus far that carnitine plays a vital role in the transport of fatty acids across the inner mitochondrial membrane. Based on this function, it has been postulated that carnitine supplementation will enhance lipid oxidation and thereby improve endurance performance by sparing endogenous carbohydrate. Similarly, in anaerobic activity, it has been purported that oral carnitine will improve performance by inhibiting lactic acid production. The following literature review will address these claims for their validity.

    In a randomized, double-blind crossover study by Decombaz et. al. (1993), nine subjects were given 3 grams/day of L-carnitine for 7 days. Then at the end of the seven days, they completed a 20 minute bicycle exercise at 43% VO2 max. Respiratory quotient (RQ), heart rate (HR), rating of perceived exertion (RPE), and various blood parameters indicated no influence of carnitine supplementation on substrate utilization.

    Otto et al. (1987) completed a randomized, double-blind cross-over study employing 10 conditioned subjects. Participants completed a 4-week carnitine (500 mg/day) loading period prior to beginning a 60-minute endurance event. There were no demonstrable improvements in expiratory ventilation (Ve), VO2, HR, RQ, or work.

    In a separate study by Otto and colleagues (1987), 10 subjects participated in a double-blind crossover study and were randomly assigned to two trials of either 500 mg of carnitine/day or a placebo for 28 days. In this instance the authors were testing its effects on maximal VO2 and serum free fatty acid levels. There were no significant changes in VO2, Ve, anaerobic threshold (AT), HR, or max lactate.

    Fink et al. (1994) studied 8 subjects over 14 days of carnitine supplementation to see what effect it would have on lactate accumulation during high intensity exercise. Subjects performed supramaximal cycling activities at 115% VO2. L-carnitine supplementation had no effect on blood or muscle lactate accumulation.

    Ransone et al. (1994) employed 26 highly trained male distance runners for 14 days of carnitine administration. They completed a 600 m bout of activity and were analyzed for lactate accumulation. The researchers found no effect of carnitine on lactate accumulation during maximal anaerobic effort.

    Kasper et al. (1994) tested the effects of carnitine on running performance. Seven competitive male distance runners consumed 4g/day for two weeks prior to testing. They found no improvement in running performance during a 5k run and no decrease in blood lactate and heart rate.

    Gorostiaga and colleagues (1989) examined 10 subjects over 28 days of supplementation and its effects on respiratory quotient during exercise. This double-blind crossover study found a non significant increase in O2 uptake, blood glycerol, and free fatty acids, and a small down shift in RQ with carnitine supplementation. The authors noted that none of the data were conclusive and that further studies were needed to make any definitive statement on carnitine efficacy.


    LIMITATIONS AND APPLICATIONS
    The available research on L-carnitine supplementation does not appear to support claims of enhanced aerobic or anaerobic exercise performance. While it is true that carnitine plays a vital role in energy metabolism, additional carnitine from exogenous sources does not appear to yield any benefit above and beyond the necessary physiological dose.

    Results from experimental data on dietary supplements must be judiciously applied given the limitations of the research methods employed. Many authors note that 'highly trained subjects' were used. However, there is no uniform definition for training status. A 'highly trained' athlete in one study may be a 'moderately-conditioned' athlete in another, and vice-versa.

    It is possible that all the athletes used in these studies were already at their physiological limit. If so, one would not expect to find any significant changes, irrespective of the supplement. One the other hand, employment of unconditioned athletes may yield invalid results because subjects may not be able to adhere to a demanding exercise protocol. But then it must also be noted that unconditioned individuals would probably not be competing at the same level (if competing at all) as the trained athlete. Thus, studies on unconditioned subjects would have no relevance. And studies on trained athletes, despite no demonstrable effect of carnitine, would still be the most pertinent to competitors.

    These data provide valuable insight into an area of sport nutrition that is highly debatable. Despite these contradictory data, claims of carnitine's efficacy persist based on anecdotal testimonials. Unfortunately, testimonials do not control for confounding variables which can make it difficult to separate cause and effect, and therefore are not considered valid in the scientific arena.

    Athletes wishing to explore carnitine's purported benefits must be aware that the dietary supplement industry is not regulated and, therefore, product safety is not guaranteed; that is, just because it is sold in stores, consumers cannot be certain that the contents of the bottle (dose or purity) is consistent with its labeling. With this lack of regulation creating such a conducive climate for misleading and false claims, the public is well-advised to research all products thoroughly before making a decision. After all, an educated decision is a wise decision.

    With so many weight loss options available, it's hard to know what to do. The reality of popular diet products and programs is that few work in the long term because they don't focus on the sustainable strategies of balanced nutrition, exercise and personal motivation. But don't be discouraged, there are good plans out there that can help you achieve your goals.
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    after reading the loooonng quote... walang effect pala ang ibig sabihin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhon View Post
    after reading the loooonng quote... walang effect pala ang ibig sabihin?
    So far, sa studies na binanggit nya, wala

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    yup, tingnan nyo nga si juday, chubby pa rin di ba? (no offense to her fans)
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    gusto ko itry yan. malay mo.

    ano ba mas mura? fitrum o yun sa healthy options?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueerain View Post
    ang pansin ko rin, if u are already exercising, pagdinagdagan mo ng green tea, regardless if it's in tablet form or tea talaga, nadadagdagan yung pagpawis mo.
    effective ba?
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    effective way pumayat ... keep GMA as president and wait for rice price to soar above means to buy it! hehe

    j/k

    ma try nga ung fitrum
    magkano ba un?
    ilan times a day ang intake?

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    gusto nyong pumayat? palitan ang lifestyle!
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