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    di talaga matatapos ang usapan na ito. yung isa sasabihin nya bilog ang mundo, yung isa naman sasabhin, hindi, mas nauna ang manok.

    So lets make the obviose clearer.

    Raped yung girl yes or no?

    walang kasalanan yung girl. yes or no?

    palagay ko, yes na rape yung girl, at yes may fault din yun girl, hindi nya pwede i blame lahat ng fault dun sa mga gumawa. In fact pwede natin sabihin na, she would keep it for himself if the video never got out, and shes accusing them rape now as a defense mechanism sa dami ng nagpu pursecute sa kanya.

    Each person has his own standard on morality, and the threshold varies from person to person. While others view a certain act as normal, others think otherwise. So what happens to the person envolved now? Definitely they all did an immoral act and they are all liable for what they have done. Sadly, they
    have to learn from their mistakes the hard way.

    just my 1 cent worth of opinion, bayad na!

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    di ko napanood to sa imbestigador.... asan na ngayon ung 5 culprits? im sure they denied it. for tanya, i do hope nasa side nya ang gabriella & vacc movements para mas matulungan sila sa kaso plus ung lawyer ni nicole... si ursua ba yun?

    (ay teka, is the family filing charges against these guys?)

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    may link ba kayo ng video nito?

    curious lang kasi ako.

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    mali silang pare-pareho, kaya ayan.. nakakainis ang mga taong hindi nag-iisip..
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    di ko napanood ito ha.... baka meron kayong link...
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    ako rin curious din ako

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    Sobrang amats siguro yung babae nung nangyari yun.
    Kawawa naman pero mukhang gusto din kasi niya.

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    hard to say kung rape.. kase may movement yung girl attempting to cover her face.. then an 0ral is done.. though she lies sa bed after as if drugged siya.. but then again..she can support herself while giving a head.. and while being on top...

    kaya lang.. kawawa pa din girl.. kase nasa-video. baka trip niya talaga, kaya lang nakita ng public, kaya she shouted "rape"

    rape or not.. yung girl lang talaga ang makakapagsabi.

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    Let's just make sure that our kids (both daughters & sons), nieces & nephews, younger siblings & cousins, as well as other young people who have our ear and are willing to hear our counsel learn their lessons from other people's displays of stupidity & wickedness (or at least poor judgement and weakness of mind & character).

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    Remember Adam and Eve case....

    Eve tempted Adam to eat "her" apple and then there's the sin.....

    By nature man are not strong/smart enough in terms of intimate seduction or woman showing signs of giving it freely....

    ang palay pag lumapit sa manok syempre tutukain yan....

    which relates to that girl going to that drinking session with people she hardly knows without hesitation means she's for it.....

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    I'm sure na ilalaban ng mga boys yan na qualified seduction yan (well, hindi ko alam kung virgin yung babae in the first place)... which carries a less serious penalty. Yun nga lang kasi, menor de edad pa yung babae (and I'm sure pati yung mga lalaki... kahit mukha na silang mga matatandang tarsier).

    A girl with no knowledge in sex could never give a head if she doesn't know how to... you need to have the muscles of the mouth contract properly to have the "right sensation". An unconscious person could not give a proper oral because of the same reason.

    Sorry ah? Pero ako, yung girl lang rin ang sisisihin ko. Inaya siya kamong makipag-inuman, definitely, alam niya na may mangyayari din. Sa panahon ngayon, karamihan ng singles na nag-iinuman, dun na napupunta (siguro gawa ng western culture iyan na 1 night stand). Ewan ko lang kung totoo ah? Pero sabi ng reviewer namin sa Legal Med, if you caught your daughter in bed with a man, pwede mo siyang patayin... pati yung "man". Eto may evidence... Alam nyo na siguro gagawin ko..

    Heps! Bago nyo himay himayin at hanapan ng kamalian ng sinasabi ko, opinion ko lang ito. Matigas rin ang ulo ko pagdating dito Sorry.
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    abah... bat nauwi sa bintangan kung sino ang tama at sino ang nagkamali?

    ano ba ang definition ng rape? sa nakikita ko, mauuwi lang ito sa out of court settlement.. should the people involve are minor, hindi naman sila makukulang. dapat siguro sa kanilang lahat ay ipasok sa rehab at psycho exam.

    i believe that she cried for rape only upon learning that the scandal was being spread in the campus. otherwise, hindi siguro malayong maulit itong scandal... baka nga hindi lang ito first time na nangyari.. who knows dba?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassidy View Post
    I'm sure na ilalaban ng mga boys yan na qualified seduction yan (well, hindi ko alam kung virgin yung babae in the first place)... which carries a less serious penalty. Yun nga lang kasi, menor de edad pa yung babae (and I'm sure pati yung mga lalaki... kahit mukha na silang mga matatandang tarsier).
    Doc, let me just correct you. Hindi po pwedeng qualified seduction since Article 337 provides and enumerates yung mga taong pwedeng mag-commit nito sa isang virgin who is over 12 but less than 18 -- kung professor/teacher pa yung gumawa nito sa estudyante nya, pasok sa 337. expressio unius est exclusio alterius. what is deemed included is deemed excluded, ika nga sa principle ng statutory construction.

    Art. 337. Qualified seduction. — The seduction of a virgin over twelve years and under eighteen years of age, committed by any person in public authority, priest, home-servant, domestic, guardian, teacher, or any person who, in any capacity, shall be entrusted with the education or custody of the woman seduced, shall be punished by prision correccional in its minimum and medium periods.

    The penalty next higher in degree shall be imposed upon any person who shall seduce his sister or descendant, whether or not she be a virgin or over eighteen years of age.

    Under the provisions of this Chapter, seduction is committed when the offender has carnal knowledge of any of the persons and under the circumstances described herein.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cassidy View Post
    A girl with no knowledge in sex could never give a head if she doesn't know how to... you need to have the muscles of the mouth contract properly to have the "right sensation". An unconscious person could not give a proper oral because of the same reason.
    but the law provides otherwise. Republic Act 8353 stipulates that rape may be committed when the offended party is deprived of reason or otherwise unconscious. so dalawang circumstances yan -- either unconscious or deprived of reason. intoxication can make a person act differently than the normal.

    sabi nga nung professor ko, may mga instances na it's as if a person had it coming. but just the same, that doesnt give any person the right to take advantage. to do so reflects one's perversity.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cassidy View Post
    Sorry ah? Pero ako, yung girl lang rin ang sisisihin ko. Inaya siya kamong makipag-inuman, definitely, alam niya na may mangyayari din. Sa panahon ngayon, karamihan ng singles na nag-iinuman, dun na napupunta (siguro gawa ng western culture iyan na 1 night stand). Ewan ko lang kung totoo ah? Pero sabi ng reviewer namin sa Legal Med, if you caught your daughter in bed with a man, pwede mo siyang patayin... pati yung "man". Eto may evidence... Alam nyo na siguro gagawin ko..
    I'm sure learned if not lawyer yung reviewer nyo sa Legal Medicine to cite Article 247 of the RPC. pero for that matter, wag natin kalimutan yung provision kasi yan ang nagse-set ng limitation.

    Art. 247. Death or physical injuries inflicted under exceptional circumstances.

    xxx

    xxx

    These rules shall be applicable, under the same circumstances, to parents with respect to their daughters under eighteen years of age, and their seducer, while the daughters are living with their parents.

    xxx


    so may requirements na naman:

    1. dapat 18 years old and below yung anak na babae

    2. at dapat nakatira or still, under the guidance pa din yung anak na babae.

    personally, hindi ko pa napapanood yung video na yan at malamang nakatulugan ko na naman sa sobrang pagod yang Imbestigador episode na yan.

    pero ang sa ganang akin, kahit virgin o hindi ang babae, kahit person engaged in commercial sex pwedeng magsabi ng rape kung hindi nya kagustuhan yung pagtatalik.

    walang consensual rape.

    generally, excluded yung mga cases ng menor de edad, kung may consent, walang rape -- kasi kagustuhan mo yan.


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    Lawyer daw siya Atty. Christine. Anyway, thanks for correcting me.
    Ayoko na magsalita...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassidy View Post
    Lawyer daw siya Atty. Christine.
    hindi naman taga-UST?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChRiSTiNe View Post
    hindi naman taga-UST?
    Hindi... Beda
    BTT (etong is Atty talaga OT )... Naaawa na lang ako sa magulang nito... sa kahihiyan na inabot. Just what I said, I'm sorry... pero alam na ng girl yung papasukin niya. Kahit naman sinong magulang, payo sa babaeng anak ay never DRINK alcohol when you're alone or with unknown companions (actually, never drink alcohol talaga)... especially at that age where hormones are raging and they are in the mood to "explore". After watching the video, I say na may alam rin talaga sa pagtatalik yung girl... yun nga lang, I guess she was drugged kaya kahit sino na lang... at ganun kadami.
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    i saw the video, its not rape but rather a "gang bang" as how westerners would put it.

    believe it or not, some gals really are so wild and some are even more adventurous than most boyz.

    times have changed and its no longer the maria clara era. but rather - the other side of the FORCE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imhotep View Post
    i saw the video, its not rape but rather a "gang bang" as how westerners would put it.
    but under the RPC, we dont have a nomenclature such as gang bang. rape pa din sya.


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    Quote Originally Posted by schnitzerz4 View Post
    i want to have sex with 5 total stranger =)






    kidding aside monkeyking is right

    dapat talaga ibalik ang bitay!
    oo nga, pero sa akin, kasalanan din naman ng babae yun. unang una, kung may utak ka naman, hinding hindi ka sasama sa 5 hindi mo pa nakikilalang mga lalake sa inuman at tatanggapin lahat ng shots na binibigay sa kanya. parehong side ang may kasalanan dito, hindi lang ang mga nang rape. and for sure, hindi lang basta inuman yun. pihado nung sobrang lasing na sya, may drugs na pinainom sa kanya.

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    they are all liable for their actions.

    pangatawanan na lang nila kung ano ang andun na.

    Yan ang weakness sa guys, even if you are innocent you can always be tagged guilty of rape kasi ang batas ng rape sa atin pumapanig mostly sa women.

    Tingnan mo walang exceptions dun sa amended law.

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    Sana kasama yan sa future amended law.

    Pati ung pag naka sagasa/bangga ka na ikaw actually ang biktima ay ikaw pa ang may kasalanan. Reckless imprudence resulting to homicide. Nakaka frustrate lang.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suntzu View Post
    Pati ung pag naka sagasa/bangga ka na ikaw actually ang biktima ay ikaw pa ang may kasalanan. Reckless imprudence resulting to homicide. Nakaka frustrate lang.
    depende yan.

    if it could be shown that under all circumstances that you were driving with due care and diligence and you can never be faulted for the injury sustained, pwede mong i-invoke yung Section 4 Article 12 ng RPC to exempt you from the criminal liability.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wifi-Pulubi View Post
    they are all liable for their actions.

    pangatawanan na lang nila kung ano ang andun na.

    Yan ang weakness sa guys, even if you are innocent you can always be tagged guilty of rape kasi ang batas ng rape sa atin pumapanig mostly sa women.

    Tingnan mo walang exceptions dun sa amended law.
    you are innocent if you did nothing. pero if you took advantage over an intoxicated person, mahirap naman yatang sabihin na innocent ka pa din.

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    Can we use the video as evidence? Patingin hehehe proof beyond a reasonable doubt

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    minors po sila eh. kahit sa mga ofismeyt ko na curios di ko na din pinakita.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChRiSTiNe View Post
    depende yan.

    if it could be shown that under all circumstances that you were driving with due care and diligence and you can never be faulted for the injury sustained, pwede mong i-invoke yung Section 4 Article 12 ng RPC to exempt you from the criminal liability.
    Thanks atty Christine! Matutuwa ang various car communities nito.

    BTW, Can you please post kahit excerpt or gist lang ng Sec. 14 Article 12? Thank again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suntzu View Post
    Thanks atty Christine! Matutuwa ang various car communities nito.

    BTW, Can you please post kahit excerpt or gist lang ng Sec. 14 Article 12? Thank again.
    Art. 12. Circumstances which exempt from criminal liability. — the following are exempt from criminal liability:

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    4. Any person who, while performing a lawful act with due care, causes an injury by mere accident without fault or intention of causing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChRiSTiNe View Post
    Art. 12. Circumstances which exempt from criminal liability. — the following are exempt from criminal liability:

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    4. Any person who, while performing a lawful act with due care, causes an injury by mere accident without fault or intention of causing it.

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    to those who haven't seen the video yet...

    let us know if our stand changes from rape to non rape after viewing it.

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    I've seen the video, it's not rape.

    She maybe drunk or drugged but giving oral and standing on top is very hard na paniwalaan na na rape sya.

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